ZA
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just a few toughts on it
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XzaivanXzaivan 1210493965|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

hi all irecentlly did a run in ZA with ur guild(by recently i mean yesterday lol) apart from the injoying game of i spy we had i saw where a main issue comes into play and just want some suggestions on it after completing first boss we headed to the hill on the way to the second (this is the part where the crazy birds decide they want to nibble on ur face :) ) here is where we encountered the problem as the add that continued to run up behind us and the add we had to deal with in front i was wondering is there a certin way to do it as to avoid the copious amount of add that decide killing us is more fun then just leaving us alone lol, thanks
Xzaivan
oh i might aswell add some corny phrase like the gm's just to be cool so here it go's,

''By the light of ellune, may ur arrows fly straigh up that gigantic bears bottom and may ur pet never get any ideas that u guys are more than just friends''

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FlameshieldFlameshield 1210525755|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

That part is rather easy, have a pally tank up front, let him tank the 2adds and the occasional birds, AOE the birds kill the caster, have tank at the rear to pick up the adds from behind…. should be a 5min walk in the park ;)

sry for just ,ing i didnt feel like making real sentences ;P

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MoriathMoriath 1210598487|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

As long as you have a pally tank ;)

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FlameshieldFlameshield 1210626519|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

hehe well as lucklas keeps telling me, a holy paly could to the bird tanking aswell ;P

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LucklasLucklas 1210677795|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes a Holy Pally can definitely do this and I have with no problems apart from Itty dying lol.

I really think the problem with this is that the eagles aggro multiple targets, when I went a few times after Chistmas I would frequently see the Lock go down too fast, a Priest would die from nowhere, the Mage would follow suit. I actually felt sorry for Lumpy who would run all the way back from the grave only to last another minute before dying again. Consider there are 8 Eagles, a Warrior may get a little aggro on 4 but the Seeds will pull as at least their target as soon as it starts ticking, a Healer may pull another. When the aoe goes off it doesn't always hit everything as the eagles have moved, people are getting interrupted, healers have to heal different people and the next 8 can come down with 4 still up. Worse still, the Lock often pulls aggro on one of the elites.
So either all AoE and healers stand in the same spot or the Pally Tanks. Considering most of us pallies should have about 15K armor this is a good option.

Pally Tank
Buffs - Devotion, Righteous Fury (+30% threat), Kings
Consumables - Sup Wiz Oil (Aggro), Sporefish (20 stam 8 mp5), Maybe Draenic and Mageblood for mana
Other - Thorns, Ret aura if there are 2 pallies for increased aggro
Group - Put them in a group with any benefits you can, Lock Stam Buff, Shadow Priest Health/Mana regen, Shaman Totems
If you are an Engineer bring Stun bombs and Frost Grenades

Gear - Swap in any tanking gear you have that has Spell damage on it, I am lucky in this area as I have mostly epic tanking kit. I also throw in Darkmoon Card: Vengeance to try to gain a little more aggro and lovely Stam.

The Pally consecrates before they arrive so the birds travel into it. My was hitting around 150 damage each second but could have been higher. Have Seal of Righteousness up and just tab around the birds every few seconds. The Seal + Swing should do around 250 damage to a single target. Don't waste mana on Holy Shock unless you want to detonate a Seed.
The Lock should wait for Consecration and then spam Seed on the Eagles which will hit for about 1.6K each non crit.
The Mage should wait about 5 secs after consecration and spam Arcane Explosion which should hit for 650k ish. This should detonate the Seeds and hopefully 3 Seeds will be up by then. If that is not working then wait a little longer or only AoE when you see the Seed detonation as they will only have around 2K left at most to finish them off.
The Mage should stand in front of the Lock and if the Lock suddenly pulls a load of birds should Frost Nova.
Considering the eagles only have around 7.7K HP they should be down within 8 seconds (3 seeds should be enough + the other AoE damage)
The Pally should have HoTs on all the time.

When aggro is held and AoE is correctly executed this is easy mode, see below for the damage.

The problems arise when aggro is pulled on the Elites or when aoe is not fast enough and 2 sets of birds are out at the same time. I noticed that when I did it, I often got hit by the 2nd Add the Warrior was tanking or by the Amani Warriors that came from Behind. The Tanks have to be doing their best to gain as much aggro on both their targets and watching for loss of aggro. It may be an idea for the Tanks to go down the hill slightly (out of the consecration range) and then maybe pull them into it after 4 or 5 seconds.

22:51'58.140 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 280 Physical damage
22:51'58.468 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 281 Physical damage
22:51'58.484 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 305 Physical damage
22:51'59.890 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 305 Physical damage
22:52'00.093 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 286 Physical damage
22:52'00.343 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 226 Physical damage
22:52'00.468 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 246 Physical damage
22:52'00.468 Amani Eagle's Swing misses Lucklas
22:52'00.687 Amani Eagle's Talon hits Lucklas for 332 Physical damage
22:52'01.843 Amani Eagle's Swing dodged by Lucklas
22:52'01.859 Amani Eagle's Talon hits Lucklas for 266 Physical damage
22:52'02.109 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 244 Physical damage
22:52'02.453 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 292 Physical damage
22:52'02.453 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 264 Physical damage
22:52'04.078 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 118 Physical damage
22:52'04.500 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 230 Physical damage
22:52'04.500 Amani Eagle's Swing crits Lucklas for 494 Physical damage
22:52'06.062 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 237 Physical damage
22:52'06.625 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 241 Physical damage
22:52'06.625 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 237 Physical damage
22:52'08.078 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 127 Physical damage
22:52'08.468 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 238 Physical damage
22:52'08.968 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 242 Physical damage
22:52'10.203 Amani Eagle's Swing parried by Lucklas
22:52'12.156 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 219 Physical damage
22:52'16.750 Amani'shi Protector's Mortal Strike hits Lucklas for 2740 Physical damage
22:52'37.968 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 324 Physical damage
22:52'39.000 Amani Eagle's Swing parried by Lucklas
22:52'39.000 Amani Eagle's Swing misses Lucklas
22:52'39.921 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 305 Physical damage
22:52'40.453 Amani Eagle's Swing hits Lucklas for 337 Physical damage
22:52'40.453 Amani Eagle's Swing dodged by Lucklas

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Can we please go ZA mucho?
JimmyjazzJimmyjazz 1211681250|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi All,
I am motivated by the desire to conquer ZA.I have reached the end of the line gear wise & can now only grind & do SSC,TK & ZA(especially ZA) .I have all the tank gear from the heroic vendor so no point in farming badges.Mag Gruul & Kara are bereft of loot save tier fury warrior gear coz I had an abundance of DKP & I now have most of that.

I have set raids to ZA wed & thu all next month - we need a commited group & we will crack it.Of special importance are palis & locks so please sign up & help the guild advance.

I reckon we have got too used to the runs becoming easy & if we wipe more than 4 times it's a catastrophe.I admit it is frustrating doing ZA but once we have it on farm we can pull the guild through & get to the interesting stuff before the exspansion.

Please try to advance the Guild & make Jimmy happy.Kara,Gruul & Mags have lost their sparkle.I know I am not alone lets get it done

Jimmy

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IttybittyIttybitty 1211873400|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hehe, Jimmy well you have my support in this as you know, and I shall try and be there myself =)

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OllyOlly 1212245824|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I will come wipe with you Jimmy. :-)

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SerdaSerda 1212532191|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I'll happily come on either Tabbi or Serda, I'd like to get the bear mount before the expansion comes out =P

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